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Values that always took uturn for convenience…. August 16, 2007

Posted by Thinker in India, Indian Politics, OBC, Religion, Social Concern.
  • He declared Indian independence as a day of slavery and declared it as a day of mourning. He fought for the separation of Tamil areas of India and Sri Lanka and for the human rights of the oppressed Tamil diaspora. He backed colonial rule and attempted to forge an alliance with both Ambedkar and Jinnah.
  • His comment on Tamil as a “language of barbarians” haunted him later in life. He was a strong proponent of embracing English as the global language and dropping Tamil from academics. To this day, his followers choose to ignore discussions on this topic.
  • Early in his political life, he had derided Tirukkural and an anachronism and a tool for Aryan aggrandisement. At a later point, he embraced it as the true guide and insisted it was a common guide for all religions. When prominent Muslims spoke out and commented that a man-made work, Tirukkural can never equal God-given verses (Qur’an), and his rationalist thought observed silence.
  • Guess who is this great personality whose only ambition is his sadistic pleasure in taking revenge against brahmins. He entered politics to quench his individual hatred against brahmins.

    Guess who is this great leader who lived his values….  only that his values keeps taking complete uturns for his convenience… but still he was living his values… 🙂

    He never believed in Gods… errr… sorry only Hindu gods… he never had a back bone to say to Muslims that their God doesnt exist as per his theory…. 🙂 A man who lived his values…

    At the age of 70 marrying a 18year old girl was a right thing for him! How great his values were….

     Now find what is his name….

    He is popularly called Periyar… Mr EV Ramasamy Naiker…. (Naiker is a caste name!!).


    How to improve the conditions of Brahmans? June 27, 2007

    Posted by Thinker in Brahman, Brahmin, India, Politics, Religion.

    The current state of Brahmin Community in India is deteriorating.  There is urgency now to fight for the upliftment of the forward (So called Forward as they are actually backward) communities of India. To see the plight of the current brahman community in india check this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=P7Xgc4ljHKM.

    The main reason for the deteriorating situation of the brahman community is our very core value of Tolerance and Non-Violence. I am not advocating violence, atleast we should come out in the street and start protesting for all the injustice that is happening to us. Tolerating injustice as “the Fate” would no longer get us anywhere.

    Some of the things that should help our community to lead a normal life:

    1. Unite all Brahmans in the country.

    2. Form a strong institution that helps develop our community into one of the politically strong and socially strong commuinity.

    3. Form our own network that shall help fellow poor Brahmans in their Livelihood to give them Mental and physical strength to face all the discriminations that they are facing.

    Let me know fellow Brahmans any other ways that you have so that we can help this poor community from discriminations and help uplift this community.

    Namah Sivaye : Namo Narayana

    Aram + Vintham (Aravinthan).

    Actual Backwards should be helped. June 21, 2007

    Posted by Thinker in Indian Politics, OBC, Religion, Social Concern.
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    I would want some policy that would help the backward classes’s state to be improved. Do not mistake this to caste based backwardness which is purely politically motivated. What i am concerned is the improvement of the actual backward people, the poors. THe poor people do not belong to just one or two castes. Every caste has a percentage of poor people whose’s life should be improved and we should help them raise their standards of living.

    We should definetly help them by giving them more moneraty benefits so that they have equal footing to complete with the best in the society. This way by providing them enough scoralships and free tutions, they would be brought to the equal standards that a richer student would get. This help should be provided strictly on the economical factor of the person and should be favoured irrespective of the caste he is born in. Whether he is an SC/ST/Brahmin/OBC, if he does not have enough economic strength to afford education, he/she should be supported by giving access to facilities like books, tution waivers, free tutions so that he would have every resource at his hand to compete.

    Instead of doing such an effort where it would help the actual backward, the rich in the so called SOBC (So called OBC) are depriving the poor of thier basic rights. My suggestion would be to help these Actual Backward classes and the help should reach the needy and not the rich people.

    President of India – By the UPA, of the UPA, for the UPA! June 19, 2007

    Posted by Thinker in India, Indian Politics, Social Concern.
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    The First citizen should atleast be selected based on the Merit of the post.  The people of India would definetly expect some person who is not politically biased in the seat of the President. But what is happening in the election of the president seems to be biased selection. Congress is bent upon a candidate who would just sign what ever drafts that it forwards.

    My support would be to Abdul Kalamji who perfectly fits the post for the president. I appreciate the third front that has elected him as the candidate. Hopefully we can see Abdulji to take on the second term and guide india to a developed nation. (How over optimistic i am!!)

    But having more than enough votes.. UPA’s candidature would walk the easy cake in the elections!

    President – By the UPA ,of the UPA and for the UPA… might be the outcome at the end…

    Hail Mayawati- Let her Live Long. June 8, 2007

    Posted by Thinker in General, India, Indian Politics, OBC, Politics, Reservation, Reservation in India, Social Concern.
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    I am atlast able to support one leader whom i can trust. I support Mayawati 🙂 Yes she is a dalit leader, so is she a leader for Brahmins.

    Dravidian moments always portay that a miniscule 2% Brahmin community was the reason for all their suppresion. If you really see its the OBCs that actually supress the Dalits and at the same time supress the  Brahmins as well.

    The OBCs (take an example of Thevars who always kill and ruin dalits live near their towns in Tamil Nadu), discriminate the Dalits in their acts and while talking politically present themselves to be supporter of Dalits.

    Ask an OBC what they have done for the upliftment of the Dalits for the last 60years, when actually they were the rulers of Tamil Nadu.  Why is the dalit’s condition not improved with the governance of Dravidian parties!

    It is simple, OBCs are the exploiters and offenders of the Dalits. But they happily put the blame on the brahmins. Its easy to play a blame game;Its more easier to blame a silent,soft ommunity that doesnt have any political backup what so ever. What people say, beating a dead man and claiming victory.

    Take an example of the Tamil Nadu government and tell me the total amount of Brahmin MLAs in the assembly, its just two, one is Jayalalitha and the other is  SV Sekhar. The remaining lot is the OBcs who are still working for last 60 years to bring the dalit’s life to a better one. But all these 60  years of their rule, have you ever seen the dravidian parties  did  anything good to dalits? All they did is to offend Brahmins and their disciplined life. All they did in 60years is to systematically offend Brahmin community(hitting a dead man) and neglecting  improvement of the actual underpriveledged.

    If they have done any good to dalits, why is dalit’s conditions have not improved in last 60years, dont tell me two brahmin MLAs were the whole reason for their non-improvement!!

    This is the reality, its the ruling class(OBCs) who are the exploiters of every other castes. They were the exploiters of Dalits and Brahmins.

    It has just started that the two opressed communities (dalits and Brahmins) are just joining their hands together. Let us march forward and get our self respect back from the ruling OBCs.

    OBCs are the Exploiters of the every other castes- Says Hindustan times. May 26, 2007

    Posted by Thinker in India, Indian Politics, OBC, Politics, Reservation, Reservation in India, Social Concern.

    Renuka Narayanan, Hindustan Times

    Chennai, May 24, 2007

    First Published: 00:35 IST(24/5/2007)

    Last Updated: 00:37 IST(24/5/2007)

    Ban caste itself, say Tamil Dalits

    “The constitution has made untouchability illegal, but caste is still alive in our society. Our goal is to have caste itself banned,” says Ravi Kumar, a Dalit MLA. A noisy meeting of tribal students in Cuddalore District, south of Chennai, leaves Ravi Kumar hoarse. But he resolutely prepares for his next meeting in his constituency — the historic Vaishnava temple town of Kattumannarkoil.

    Kumar is one of the two MLAs from the Viduthalai Siruthaigal (Dalit Liberation Panthers) in the assembly, which has  44 Dalits. His party leader is Thol. Thirumavalavan of the Parayar community, that for centuries announced village deaths by drumming on the parai (a local drum). From the name of this formerly ‘untouchable’ community had originated the derogatory ‘paraiah’. Today, however, 64 per cent of the 1.1 crore Dalits in the state are literate, just 10 per cent behind the state average of 74 per cent.

    “This high literacy level among Tamil Dalits is not due to the Dravidian movement,” says Ravi Kumar. “In British Raj, only two communities had a good English education: Brahmins and Dalits. The Brahmins, because they served the British in offices and the Dalits, for serving them at home as cooks, bearers and personal attendants. A Tamil Dalit, Rettamalai Sreenivasan, attended the Round Table Conference in London with Dr Ambedkar.”

    Dalit political awareness in Tamil Nadu began as early as 1895 with the Adidravida Mahajanasabha founded by M Chinnathambi. His son, MC Raja, made a Rao Bahadur by the British, published a Dalit magazine Parayar (which also means ‘to speak out’) between 1893 and 1900, with a circulation rivalling The Hindu.

    However, the last 40 years of the Dravidian movement have not helped Tamil Dalits because of caste demographics.

    “Forward castes, including Brahmins, Muslims and Christians, constitute 13 per cent of Tamil Nadu. Scheduled Castes are 19 per cent and Scheduled Tribes one per cent. The rest are intermediary castes who control political power,” says P Radhakrishnan, Professor of Sociology at the Madras Institute of Development Studies and author of the study, ‘Religion, Caste and State’ (2007).

    Says Ravi Kumar, “Of the 234 MLAs in the present assembly, only two are Brahmins: Jayalalitha and SV Shekhar of the Mylapore constituency. Middle castes have run the government for 40 years. So who is responsible for Dalit non-inclusion?” In the 2004 general elections, the Liberation Panthers and another major Dalit party, the Puthiya Tamilagam, were kept out of the Democratic Progressive Alliance (DPA) led by M. Karunanidhi of the Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (DMK).

    Atrocities against Dalits continue, mostly perpetrated by the two most dominant backward castes — the Thevars (mostly AIADMK supporters) and the Vanniyars (the PMK’s vote bank). Two years ago at Thinniyar in Tiruchirapalli district Thevars forced Dalits to eat human excrement. Six months later, Dalits were forced to drink urine at Gounderpatti near Dindigul.

    “The only radical solution is to ban caste. No wearing caste marks or retaining caste surnames, banning caste-based organisations and abolishing government caste-counting mechanisms like official forms. But will any political party have the guts to do it? Particularly in TN?” challenges Ravi Kumar.

    Is this a constitutional amendment whose time has come?


    © Copyright 2007 Hindustan Times

    What is OBC ? April 10, 2007

    Posted by Thinker in India, Indian Politics, OBC, Politics, Reservation in India, Social Concern.

    OBCs – Any caste that are influential vote banks in India politics and can influence the politicians to include their caste into a list of Priviledged castes.

    These priveledged castes (Rather people belonging to these castes) would  get benefits to get into good universities with lesser merit than the required merit to get into good universities.

    Once they complete their education, these priveledged caste people would get reserved jobs in the Government (which means you can get a government job with lesser merit obatined in the examination.)

    Again they would get promotions with lesser merit, as we have reservations in the promotions in government jobs as well!

    Justice Delivered! March 29, 2007

    Posted by Thinker in India, Indian Politics, Politics, Reservation in India, Social Concern.
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    Yes Supreme court just delivered the Justice. Condemns the Goverment as playing vote bank politics.

    Government knows that  OBCs (actually OBcs are those sections consists of very rich people.. even richest in india..) have more vote banks and wants to appease them by playing vote bank politics.. and Supreme court rightly put the government in its place.

    Lets all unite together. Let there be no Caste based discrimination. 

    Jai Hind.

    Persecuted community and Tamil Nadu politics. December 8, 2006

    Posted by Thinker in Indian Politics.

    I see that Brahmin community  in Tamil Nadu is the worst sufferers in the country; The people of Tamil Nadu are brain washed by their leaders that all the problems that they are facing is because of a well to do Brahmin community;

    When you need votes and you need wealth; You get it by targetting the most weak community in your society. To choose them,  its easy, there is only one community that is envied for its good education and culture; the brahmin community and the politicians used them full to their advantage.Also they are few in number and their votes dont count; They are soft people who dont come down to streets and protest;  They dont have backing of any political party; They dont have any support of power what so ever.

    How could people of Tamil Nadu believe that these(Brahmins) are the ones that are cause of all the miseries in their life; Because they do poojas in temples; And this is the cause of all the sufferings in tamil nadu; Great logic that needs to be appreciated.

    If you list all the richest people of Tamil Nadu and who rule Tamil nadu; you could easily see that these list would contain only the big land lords and buisness men who would belong to the so called “OBCs”;

    I feel its these OBCs who were very much against the social justice and were discriminating the other guys before independence and now they are discriminating against brahmins.

    These OBCs are always powerful and always rule ; and yet they preach to the outer world that they are backward;

    One expert from wikipiedia :

    Brahmins are a persecuted community and they are distinguished as the community on whose rabid hatred, the polity of the modern south Indian state of Tamil Nadu is founded.

    Should we have a Monolithic world ? August 4, 2006

    Posted by Thinker in India, Indian Politics, Politics, Religion, Social Concern.

    How we define Religious Tolerance?

    I guess, religious tolerance is to allow other religions to co-exist and respect that they have their own right to follow their own faith.

    If this is so, why some religions are converting the rest of the world to itself?  Please do not get emotional, lets look at this at a very rational way.

    If we think one religion is very great, that you feel is the best one to follow, would it not automatically observe people to it?

    If this is considered true why do we need conversions?

    I feel, the necessity of conversion should have existed when the religion started(evolved), where you would have very few people following it. So, feeling insecure that it might get destroyed, we convert others to it and prevent our religion from extinction.

    Lets take the case of Christianity:

    Since christianity is the major religion followed by the entire world why would we need to convert others into christianity, if others feel it(Christianity) is good they would automatically start following ours(Christianity) and become a christian!

    Why do we still have the same fear to get all others converted! Why huge machineries with so much funding to make this world a christian world.

    Imagine a monolithick world of single religion ! Would it not be boring! When we have no choice? I would definetly not prefer it!

    I am pained to see the bakbone less Hindus are getting easily converted to christianity for money! (Yes, some missonies offer money if some one gets converted to their religion and this happens in India).

    I feel very bad that at some time we would never have any choice to follow a different faith except christianity.

    How do you feel in such a monolithic world!